Lukas Engelhardt - Revision history

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	This made us question our role as editors more and more, or rather made us aware of it. While initially we were hoping for contributions by the alumni we realised more and more that we would have a direct impact on the content we would publish, that it would include our opinions, personalities and biases.		This made us question our role as editors more and more, or rather made us aware of it. While initially we were hoping for contributions by the alumni we realised more and more that we would have a direct impact on the content we would publish, that it would include our opinions, personalities and biases.

			[[File:FIN_planning1.jpg\|400px]] [[File:FIN_planning2.jpg\|400px]]

	= The Interviews =		= The Interviews =

Lukas at 02:50, 24 April 2015

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	After some initial brain storming sessions we had agreed on a few themes and general ideas, after which we created a first plan of action. I remember that Mantas was talking about the notion of what an alumni is in that first lesson; do people that quit school or changed their practice count? We decided they did, and we wanted to find a system for the school to build up a dialogue with them.		After some initial brain storming sessions we had agreed on a few themes and general ideas, after which we created a first plan of action. I remember that Mantas was talking about the notion of what an alumni is in that first lesson; do people that quit school or changed their practice count? We decided they did, and we wanted to find a system for the school to build up a dialogue with them.

	One thing we were all very interested in was “openness”, also in journalism. I had ~~fist~~ been assigned to the Beyond Social team, and had gotten a short introduction about it before I could convince all the involved teachers that I would be much happier working on the REX assignment. I did however really like the publishing system behind REX and took some of the ideas with me into this new assignment - initially also, and especially the print on demand function. At this point we were all very fixed on a physical component of the end publication. We were thinking about this print on demand function but also about events, talks etc. that could company the web publication.		One thing we were all very interested in was “openness”, also in journalism. I had initially been assigned to the Beyond Social team, and had gotten a short introduction about it before I could convince all the involved teachers that I would be much happier working on the REX assignment. I did however really like the publishing system behind REX and took some of the ideas with me into this new assignment - initially also, and especially, the print on demand function. At this point we were all very fixed on a physical component of the end publication. We were thinking about this print on demand function but also about events, talks etc. that could company the web publication.

	We agreed that we would try something based on content provided by the alumni, rather then just writing showcasing them. To get to these topics we wanted to interview some of them, and try to find interesting topics, themes, possibilities for content basically. It’s important to note that at this stage we were not planning to take on the roles of editors but were looking at the interviews more as a starting point for us to find about about our options in terms of content.		We agreed that we would try something based on content provided by the alumni, rather then just writing showcasing them. To get to these topics we wanted to interview some of them, and try to find interesting topics, themes, possibilities for content basically. It’s important to note that at this stage we were not planning to take on the roles of editors but were looking at the interviews more as a starting point for us to find about about our options in terms of content.
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	At this point we had decided to try out different things in the interviews. We logged all of our experiences and ideas in our wiki, which can be found here:		At this point we had decided to try out different things in the interviews. We logged all of our experiences and ideas in our wiki, which can be found here:
	[[1._Different_types_of_interviews\|Types of interviews]]
			* [[1._Different_types_of_interviews\|Types of interviews]]

	==== First design sketches ====		==== First design sketches ====

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	= Endspurt =		= Endspurt =

			We were really working towards the final presentation now. This meant agreeing on a final website design, visualising functionality, organising our content in the wiki, planning the physical aspect of the publication and planning the presentation itself.

			==== The presentation ====
			For our presentation we decided to use some of the experiences we had collected in the interviews. This meant some logistics and planning, since we decided that we wanted to sit down at a table together with the client and the teachers, give out beverages and present on a laptop screen.

			We also decided we did not want to show any bullet points, or a presentation as such. Instead, we wanted to mainly talk about our concept, the interviews and our reasoning behind it and show this on a working version of the website. This way we would not have to present the design itself at all, but it would be connected to our story and be the only necessary visualisation. Of course, our main problem was that we had neither a finished design nor any remarkable coding skills.

			==== Organising content ====

			Organising the content was more of a structural question than a question of workload. In the final stage before our presentation, though, we all worked very close together, which made decisions like that easy.

			==== Physicality ====

			Eventually we agreed that the aspect of the editorial team meeting the alumni is already enough of a physical aspect, especially if every editorial team records their experiences. We organised these experiences on our wiki, where a print on demand function could also be implemented, making it possible to always quickly, on the push of a button, print out the latest version.

			==== Name/logo ====
			We had a LOT of difficulties coming up with a name. We discussed a lot of options, here are some:

			* talkthentalk
			* metalkyou
			* wetalkyou
			* hightalk
			* CHTS
			* Yakyak
			* az
			* powwow
			* pillow talk
			* talkfest
			* TLKFST
			* tête-à-tête
			* TTaTT
			* RLY
			* S-EX
			* TaT-a-TaT
			* RL
			* CRCL
			* out
			* PUT OUT
			* TaTaTaT
			* TETATET

			Finally Arthur came up with our final decision: fin

			Daniel and I then sketched with the logos for a while and arrived at a conclusion:

			[[File:Logolukas.png\|400px]] [[File:Logodaniel1.jpg\|400px]] [[File:Logodaniel2.jpg\|400px]]

			==== Design/Visualisation ====

			We made all decisions in a group but the main discussion about the design was between me and Daniel. I initially did some research into typography, and was mostly influenced by these 4 things I found on the web:

			* [http://practicaltypography.com/ http://practicaltypography.com/]
			* [http://ia.net/ http://ia.net/]
			* [http://peteanicholson.com/ http://peteanicholson.com/]
			* [http://payload255.cargocollective.com/1/3/104814/7414585/BAP_2014_OneOnOne_ImageByHelloMeTillWiedeck.jpg http://payload255.cargocollective.com/1/3/104814/7414585/BAP_2014_OneOnOne_ImageByHelloMeTillWiedeck.jpg]

			After a lot of discussions and steps in between we ended up at our final design:

			[[File:FIN_Daniel1.jpg\|400px]] [[File:FIN_Daniel2.jpg\|400px]] [[File:FIN_Daniel3.jpg\|400px]] [[File:FIN_Lukas1.jpg\|400px]] [[File:FIN_Final1.png\|400px]] [[File:FIN_Final2.png\|400px]]

			Daniel did all of the coding for our trial version of the site. At this stage we worked very close together and while he was coding I would send him new parts of the design or he would ask me for changes and I would execute them for him. This was really effective and also very fun to work on!

Lukas: /* The Wiki */

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The Wiki

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	* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]		* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]
	* [[http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton]]		* [[http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton]]
			* [[http://kotaku.com/the-maker-of-the-trollface-meme-is-counting-his-money-1696228810 http://kotaku.com/the-maker-of-the-trollface-meme-is-counting-his-money-1696228810]]

	==== The Name ====		==== The Name ====

Lukas at 02:00, 24 April 2015

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	* The part of meeting people is enough of a physical aspect		* The part of meeting people is enough of a physical aspect
	* it’s part of the design process, so really design it		* it’s part of the design process, so really design it

			= Development =

			==== Interviews ====
			We were mostly into interviewing people now. We ended up talking to and recording 6 alumni, one of them in Amsterdam, all of which can be found on our wiki:

			* [[ISSUE_1\|List of interviews]]

			All of the meetings went really well, we ended up having very interesting conversations with all of them. We also started transcribing our meetings. Again, we logged all of our tips, experiences and idea in our wiki guide:

			* [[1._Different_types_of_interviews\|Types of interviews]]
			* [[2._Different_methods_of_transcribing\|Methods of transcribing]]
			* [[3._Different_deliverables_of_interviews\|Different deliverables]]
			* [[4._Context_affects_content\|Different interview contexts]]

			Organising these meetings took most of our time. Another very time consuming part was transcription. We had a lot of discussions about how to treat the content that we recorded, and how much we edited. In general, especially between Carmen and me there was a bit of an argument about the direction we would take as editors. While I wanted to avoid making the work too much about us as an editorial team, Carmen wanted experimental interviews to be our main focus. We eventually agreed to not limit the kind of interview at all, neither making experimentalism a requirement nor taking that option away. In this way all future editorial teams would be able to do exactly what they want to do.

			==== Designs ====

			We also developed some new designs, and especially a new structure, which were meant as a solution more seriously:

			[[File:Fin_Sketch_6.png\|400px]] [[File:Fin_Sketch_7.png\|400px]] [[File:Fin_Sketch_8.png\|400px]]

			==== Andre ====
			In this time we also had two workshops with Andre. We went into detail about how to set up a wiki and how it could be converted into a webpage. Again, we documented our experiences with the wiki, on the wiki!

			* [[5._How_to_use_the_Wiki\|Wiki knowledge]]

			= Endspurt =

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	* [[http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/ http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/]]		* [[http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/ http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/]]
	* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]		* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]
	* [[http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton\|http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton]]		* [[http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton]]

	==== The Name ====		==== The Name ====

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	* [[http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/ http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/]]		* [[http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/ http://aroc.github.io/side-comments-demo/]]
	* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]		* [[https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/the-idea-person-e08e36f9024d]]
			* [[http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton\|http://genius.it/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton]]

	==== The Name ====		==== The Name ====

Lukas at 01:18, 24 April 2015

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	==== Scheduling interviews ====		==== Scheduling interviews ====
	The main phase of the project had started! We scheduled more and more interviews, and started interviewing people, and recording the results. We even created a [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=1ohilina3ebm50076uj6taknms%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Amsterdam google calendar] to schedule our interviews.		The main phase of the project had started! We scheduled more and more interviews, and started interviewing people, and recording the results. We even created a [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=1ohilina3ebm50076uj6taknms%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Amsterdam google calendar] to schedule our interviews.

			At this point we had decided to try out different things in the interviews. We logged all of our experiences and ideas in our wiki, which can be found here:
			[[1._Different_types_of_interviews\|Types of interviews]]

	==== First design sketches ====		==== First design sketches ====

Lukas: /* Presentation 1 */

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Presentation 1

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	On the 21st of March we had our first presentation to the client!		On the 21st of March we had our first presentation to the client!

	[[Media:FIN_presentation_1.pdf]]		[[Media:FIN_presentation_1.pdf\|Presentation 1.pdf]]

			We got pretty good feed back from the teachers and the client:

			==== Feedback Xenia ====
			===== Structure of the comments: =====
			* We should not compromise on our concept but make it usable in some way!
			* maybe through tags
			* maybe through colour coding?
			===== Test it! =====
			* TEST our layout on somebody that is not involved in the project
			* maybe we can make a photoshop sliced version of it that becomes clickable to fake usability
			===== WHY? =====
			* What is our main point? Why are we doing this?
			* is it about conversation?
			* about creating a beautiful image?
			* is it a study of people’s reactions?
			===== IN THE FUTURE: =====
			* Why should other people keep doing what we’re doing?
			* What is the incentive for them?
			* Are we going to have themes, content wise?
			* Who selects the people?
			* What is the incentive for alumni?
			===== Suggestions =====
			* Maybe film the interviews?
			* Check out Daniel van der Velden from Metahaven
			* I there too much stuff? so we have to make the project slimmer?
			* She feels stressed by too much content (Is she just old?)

			==== Feedback Anja, Gabrielle ====
			===== They like it!!! =====
			* Anja really likes the going-back-in-time-thing
			* If it’s not so usable, it shouldn’t dominate the design though
			* If it’s too much effort we shouldn’t do it
			===== The students that take over =====
			* Meeting someone can be enough incentive
			* if there is one person who assigns and arranges meetings it would be interesting for the students to take part!
			* Check out Will Holder: Yeas, but is it edible performance
			* The part of meeting people is enough of a physical aspect
			* it’s part of the design process, so really design it

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Presentation 1

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	On the 21st of March we had our first presentation to the client!		On the 21st of March we had our first presentation to the client!

	[[Media:FIN_presentation_1.pdf~~\|right~~]]		[[Media:FIN_presentation_1.pdf]]